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arriving through a secret entrance this morning, the former cia director made his way to the hill for closed meetings with the house and the senate intelligence committees to testify about that september 11th attack, an event he said and always believed was an act of terrorism. democratic congressman adam schiff from california sits on the intelligence committee and was in the hearing room this morning. congressman, this is so sensitive. is it true or not true that the united nations ambassador susan rice was given the correct known information about what happened in benghazi when she went on those five television shows on sunday a few days after the attack? was she given the accurate, up-to-date information on what happened, that it was a terrorist attack? >> she was given the best assessment the intelligence committee had at the time. i asked general petraeus, were the talking points we were given their best intelligence assessment at the time and they were given that late in the day on saturday, late in the afternoon, and he said, yes. these are -- this was the best assessment they
arriving through a secret entrance this morning, the former cia director made his way to the hill for closed meetings with the house and the senate intelligence committees to testify about that september 11th attack, an event he said and always believed was an act of terrorism. democratic congressman adam schiff from california sits on the intelligence committee and was in the hearing room this morning. congressman, this is so sensitive. is it true or not true that the united nations ambassador...
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why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community put forward the assessments that gave us a clear assessment and debunked the idea there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that, and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so long to get to the truth and get a more accurate picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that doesn't divulge classified information. but i don't think there's any evidence, i certainly haven't seen any evidence, that general petraeus or any of the other intelligence community were trying to mislead anyone. they are professional. they were trying to do their job, and we can fault them for getting the initial assessment wrong, but i don't think we can ascribe any kind of malice or intent to deceive. >> when your pants are on fire, someone should tell you your pants are on fire. you shouldn't have to ask are my pants on fire? that's my view. i'm going to try to get more information. congressman adam schiff fro
why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community put forward the assessments that gave us a clear assessment and debunked the idea there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that, and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so long to get to the truth and get a more accurate picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that doesn't divulge classified...
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david petraeus who was stejed to day before he resigned as cia director will now testify tomorrow revealing what he learned from his own independent investigation into the ben gaz i didn't remember -- benghazi attack. including john mccain and lundcy graham are calling for a watergate style investigation into the libya raid and the obama administration's response. the men also said they would try to block any attempt to nominate susan rice as the next secretary of state. describing rice as unqualified for the job after she originally characterized the benghazi terror attack as a protest gone wrong. president obama and his first post election news conference yesterday fired back in sharp terms. >> let me say specifically about susan rice, she has done xr exemplary work. she has represented the united states and our interests in the united nations with skill and professionalism and toughness and grace. if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador
david petraeus who was stejed to day before he resigned as cia director will now testify tomorrow revealing what he learned from his own independent investigation into the ben gaz i didn't remember -- benghazi attack. including john mccain and lundcy graham are calling for a watergate style investigation into the libya raid and the obama administration's response. the men also said they would try to block any attempt to nominate susan rice as the next secretary of state. describing rice as...
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any e-mail was not his cia e-mail. it was not like the former director who got busted taking home classified information on his home laptop. so this was not a national security matter. and it was not a criminal matter. so why was this brought up to the director of national intelligence by the fbi. we do not know. what we do know is once james clapper, head of the national intelligence, found out about the affair on election day, he urged david petraeus to resign. the following day, wednesday, mr. clapper reportedly notified staff at the white house and the following day, thursday, general petraeus sat down with president obama directly. the president did not accept his resignation initially that day. he didn't accept it until the following day, until friday. that's when it all became public. here's another question, though. why did the fbi investigation start here in the first place? what we're told about why it started is a woman who was not having an affair, she received e-mails that she perceived as threatening and
any e-mail was not his cia e-mail. it was not like the former director who got busted taking home classified information on his home laptop. so this was not a national security matter. and it was not a criminal matter. so why was this brought up to the director of national intelligence by the fbi. we do not know. what we do know is once james clapper, head of the national intelligence, found out about the affair on election day, he urged david petraeus to resign. the following day, wednesday,...
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if you look at leon panetta, when he was running the cia, when he went to the cia people asked what kind of background did he have in the intelligence community? it wasn't particularly deep. he was in congress who had been a white house chief of staff, kind of an organization man. you had other cia directors that come up the ranks and they're real spy masters. petraeus came from the military. there has been a recent trend of senior intelligence officials nts government having military background. so that actually -- petraeus was a part of that wave of people who bring -- because we are having this merger in military and intelligence now, we identify threats and trouble spots and frequently we wind up sending special forces or drones our using targeted military actions to address threats. you could see someone else come from the military. again, to return to this point briefly that i made earlier, the cia is increasingly being identified by its reliance on drones and drone strikes and that kind of military side of things. petraeus was steering it very much in that direction, so i guess if
if you look at leon panetta, when he was running the cia, when he went to the cia people asked what kind of background did he have in the intelligence community? it wasn't particularly deep. he was in congress who had been a white house chief of staff, kind of an organization man. you had other cia directors that come up the ranks and they're real spy masters. petraeus came from the military. there has been a recent trend of senior intelligence officials nts government having military...
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he himself is under consideration to become the permanent cia director. there's a lot of cabinet shuffling that may take place. interesting people are talking about defense secretary as though the job was open. leon panetta might want to stay longer. and john kerry has not said he would be interested in that job. some said he would take it, but others closer to him say that's not the case. and no job has been offered. so this is -- let's just put it awkward. if she is nominated and they it fight this through, who is going to chair that committee? and that's john kerry. >> it's not quite krem linology because it's america, but it's getting closer. andrea mitchell, thank you so much. great to have you here. >> thank you. >>> elsewhere in republican land, john boehner was polishing his tough guy act today. what everybody else threatening economic disaster, he's now calling leverage. that moment in heroism is next. y with us, the more you save. and when you switch from another company to us, we even reward you for the time you spent there. genius. yeah, geniu
he himself is under consideration to become the permanent cia director. there's a lot of cabinet shuffling that may take place. interesting people are talking about defense secretary as though the job was open. leon panetta might want to stay longer. and john kerry has not said he would be interested in that job. some said he would take it, but others closer to him say that's not the case. and no job has been offered. so this is -- let's just put it awkward. if she is nominated and they it...
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ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she accountable for going on national television knowing she can't tell the whole truth because it's classified? let's begin with senator susan collins, republican of maine. i guess it's the toughest question in the world, senator, and that is, do you believe that susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, knowingly covered up a breach of national security? >> well, let me say this, chris, our purpose is to understand the security failure in benghazi. what the administration told the american public about it. and how we can learn lessons to keep our personnel safer in the future. so that's my interest and goal i
ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she...
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there's an fbi and cia, infa infatuated with jill kelley >> let's get this straight. this guy works at the fbi, becomes infatuated. she gets shirtless photos of him allegedly. she goes to him and says i'm getting these weird e-mails. >> he takes this matter into a federal investigation you have to wonder. an fbi investigation if not for this one agent's involvement and especially him going to congress as a whistle blower saying it wasn't being investigated fairly. it's just very bizarre. >> once the fbi got involved, why didn't notify the white house and congress right away? the questions go on and on. >> don't send shirtless picture of yourself, unless they're vacation photos with your family. >> these e-mails with john allen, 20,000 and 30,000 e-mails. as a member of council of foreign relations, what does this do to the president? >> david petraeus was a very important part of all of these conversations. he would have been a crucial advisement, the civil war in syria, all of which are among the pressing foreign policy questions right now. he doesn't need him resign
there's an fbi and cia, infa infatuated with jill kelley >> let's get this straight. this guy works at the fbi, becomes infatuated. she gets shirtless photos of him allegedly. she goes to him and says i'm getting these weird e-mails. >> he takes this matter into a federal investigation you have to wonder. an fbi investigation if not for this one agent's involvement and especially him going to congress as a whistle blower saying it wasn't being investigated fairly. it's just very...
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she's in the part of the cia. she was out doing what they do on sunday talk shows which is talking about a whole range of subjects. i suspect that if you asked john mccain in an honest moment about whether he was truly expert in all the things he talks about -- and his many sunday talk show appearances, he would say occasionally he ventured into territory he wasn't personally responsible for and that's where you get into the question of why it's not just me, it's the op-ed board, the editorial board of the "washington post" that said this is bizarre. why are they pursuing susan rice like this? there are troubling questions about these senators and their witch hunt that they have engaged in. >> david, john mccain said i am upset by answers that were given and answers that were not given. he's just upset generally about everything that happened. i will ask, is this the best thing the republicans have going for them? we have polling from cnn/orc that asks about a benghazi cover-up. 42% of respondents believe there wa
she's in the part of the cia. she was out doing what they do on sunday talk shows which is talking about a whole range of subjects. i suspect that if you asked john mccain in an honest moment about whether he was truly expert in all the things he talks about -- and his many sunday talk show appearances, he would say occasionally he ventured into territory he wasn't personally responsible for and that's where you get into the question of why it's not just me, it's the op-ed board, the editorial...
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possibly a new cia director, possibly they keep the acting one. folks here at the white house, the president has great respect for mike morell, current acting director. may strip him of the acting title. but they now realize he has to get off the dime when it comes to state. get it done sooner. don't let all of this, all of this end up like planes on the runway at laguardia and have them all clogged up. you have to space out the confirmation fights and i think that you're going to see movement on state soon. >> you have to get going. >> i do. they kick us out. >> blending in the role of federal government, saying that it is not always perfect, including the response for so many people still suffering greatly but it does work which we know is a great part of the discussion and even the exit polling that i did. the role of government in blending it in to the answer regarding the storm that hit this area. >> well, that's a case i think the president was able to make in the aftermath of hurricane sandy and the government plays a big roll and can play
possibly a new cia director, possibly they keep the acting one. folks here at the white house, the president has great respect for mike morell, current acting director. may strip him of the acting title. but they now realize he has to get off the dime when it comes to state. get it done sooner. don't let all of this, all of this end up like planes on the runway at laguardia and have them all clogged up. you have to space out the confirmation fights and i think that you're going to see movement...
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that is largely a cia question, and largely something that will be resolved in the secure conference rooms where we won't hear what is going on there, and it is a political matter and the scandal won't go anywhere and it is quickly crowd out by much more significant things such as what is going on in the middle east right now. >> and what we are hearing is from people like saxby chambliss who says that he wants susan rice to come out and say she is wrong as well. what about that, jackie? >> well, the wagons are circling around her in a lot of ways from the democrats, and you saw that saying that she was following the approved talking points that she was given, and i don't know if that is going to happen, but again, we will see where it goes when we start to talk about a new secretary of state. >> all right. jackie, thank you so much. and dana and jackie, have a great week. >> thank you so much. >>> and a top republican is questioning president obama whether he knew about the general petraeus scandal before the election. house committee chair mike rogers said it is possible and said a
that is largely a cia question, and largely something that will be resolved in the secure conference rooms where we won't hear what is going on there, and it is a political matter and the scandal won't go anywhere and it is quickly crowd out by much more significant things such as what is going on in the middle east right now. >> and what we are hearing is from people like saxby chambliss who says that he wants susan rice to come out and say she is wrong as well. what about that, jackie?...
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she will be taking that meeting alongside the acting director of the cia. in addition to this fight over the tax cuts, the president is not shying away from the secretary of state fight either. we know what he's being pressured to do and we know what he'd like to get done in the second term. by looming over all of those factors, looming over all of the decisions that the white house and the president himself are making right now over what to do with this second term, how to start this second term, looming over all of it is the modern american history and even the not-so-modern american history. the best-laid plans more often than not get derailed. for all of the advice a president gets, history offers the best caution for thinking that a second-term president can control how history remembers him. watch this. >> as with other second term presidents, bill clinton still hopes to leave his mark but with smaller steps. an approach more likely to please politicians than historians. >> i would say if he's interested in impressing scholars of the future, one thing
she will be taking that meeting alongside the acting director of the cia. in addition to this fight over the tax cuts, the president is not shying away from the secretary of state fight either. we know what he's being pressured to do and we know what he'd like to get done in the second term. by looming over all of those factors, looming over all of the decisions that the white house and the president himself are making right now over what to do with this second term, how to start this second...
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former cia director david petraeus is expected to testify. you see some of the tone and tenor of what will perhaps happen behind closed doors tomorrow. i'm tamron hall. you can watch "news nation" every day 2:00 p.m. eastern time. "the cycle" is up next. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. challenge the need for such heavy measures with olay. regenerist micro-sculpting serum for firmer skin in 5 days. pretty heavy lifting for such a lightweight. [ female announcer ] olay regenerist. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> i'm krystal ball and you'r
former cia director david petraeus is expected to testify. you see some of the tone and tenor of what will perhaps happen behind closed doors tomorrow. i'm tamron hall. you can watch "news nation" every day 2:00 p.m. eastern time. "the cycle" is up next. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the...
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tomorrow rice along with acting cia director will meet with mccain, lindsey graham on capitol hill. now that mccain is open to the idea of hearings from rice, he's alleging a white house coverup on the matter, a narrative already being pushed on fox news. fox has devoted countless hours of air time to the benghazi story booking guests to pedal the conspiracy theories. but today something rare happened. fox news invited journalist thomas ricks to share his thoughts about the whole thing. he reports the truth for a living. so needless to say his interview was cut short. >> senator john mccain said he would block any attempt to nominate susan rice to become secretary of state. she's currently the u.n. ambassador. he seems to be backing away from that. what do you make of that? >> i think that benghazi generally was hyped by this network especially and now that the campaign is over, he's backing off a little bit. they are not going to stop susan rice from being secretary of state. >> when you have four people dead including the u.s. ambassador, how do you call that hype? >> how many sec
tomorrow rice along with acting cia director will meet with mccain, lindsey graham on capitol hill. now that mccain is open to the idea of hearings from rice, he's alleging a white house coverup on the matter, a narrative already being pushed on fox news. fox has devoted countless hours of air time to the benghazi story booking guests to pedal the conspiracy theories. but today something rare happened. fox news invited journalist thomas ricks to share his thoughts about the whole thing. he...
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former cia director david petraeus is arriving home after a hearing on capitol hill appearing for the first time since his resignation over the affair. the general testified about what led to the deadly attack in benghazi. >> he made it clear that there was significant terrorist involvement, and that is not my recollection of what he told us. >> we'll get a live report from capitol hill. plus, former mississippi governor haley barbour's shall i say unique take on what republicans need to do after losing the election. >> we've got to give our political organizational activity, you know, a very serious proctology exam. >> ouch. how easy will be it for republicans to fix their problem? i'll ask our political panel. you can join our conversation. you can find us at @tamron hall and @newsnation. think my pick for our friday song, i think. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon, whose long dy setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news.
former cia director david petraeus is arriving home after a hearing on capitol hill appearing for the first time since his resignation over the affair. the general testified about what led to the deadly attack in benghazi. >> he made it clear that there was significant terrorist involvement, and that is not my recollection of what he told us. >> we'll get a live report from capitol hill. plus, former mississippi governor haley barbour's shall i say unique take on what republicans...
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you have a presidential election, you have the fbi and the cia kind of going at each other. you have an interagency dispute over the benghazi affair. let's not forget that two weeks ago, "the wall street journal" had a pretty damning article kind of pointing the finger at the cia for the benghazi debacle. a lot of people said then petraeus got thrown under the bus. i don't know if we're going to find out what the hell is going on here for weeks, months and even years. >> lindsey graham says petraeus better testify this week. his number two is now going to talk about the lead-up and what happened in terms of benghazi. but do you think he'll eventually have to testify? how much pressure do you think there is coming from capitol hill? >> i think there will be quite a bit of pressure. but it's not like his deputy isn't reading the same files that he is. i think they'll get just as informative a briefing from his deputy as you would from petraeus. but there will be pressure from capitol hill, definitely, going forward. we'll have to see what happens. hate to say it. there are a l
you have a presidential election, you have the fbi and the cia kind of going at each other. you have an interagency dispute over the benghazi affair. let's not forget that two weeks ago, "the wall street journal" had a pretty damning article kind of pointing the finger at the cia for the benghazi debacle. a lot of people said then petraeus got thrown under the bus. i don't know if we're going to find out what the hell is going on here for weeks, months and even years. >> lindsey...
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this is the first time we've seen, as i say, the former cia director. joining me now is michael leiter, nbc news terrorism expert and former director of the national counterterrorism center at the cia. you've had long experience working there and you know what this agency is going through right now. it's extraordinary. they announced yesterday inspector general's investigation into whether david petraeus used his security detail, his planes, the facilities of office, resources of the agency, to further, to advance this relationship which we now he has acknowledged was paula broadwell. >> they did announce that. i think they made clear in that announcement this was completely precautionary. they were not suggesting he had done anything wrong. they thought this was right in light of all the news and attention that's been cast on the cia and as you say, this makes it a very difficult time for the cia during incredible international upheaval. >> we'll talk about in a moment. i want to ask you about the conflicts consensus on what benghazi was. petraeus, by
this is the first time we've seen, as i say, the former cia director. joining me now is michael leiter, nbc news terrorism expert and former director of the national counterterrorism center at the cia. you've had long experience working there and you know what this agency is going through right now. it's extraordinary. they announced yesterday inspector general's investigation into whether david petraeus used his security detail, his planes, the facilities of office, resources of the agency, to...
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he was also very calculating on his take on the scandal surrounding former cia chief david pezus. >> i am withholding judgment on how the process around general pettia came up. and it's also possible you'd be asking why are we interfering in a criminal investigation. i think it's best right now for to us see how this whole process unfolded. >> the president also showed the immigration he has and pressure on republicans to reach a bipartisan agreement. >> before the election hi given a couple interviews where i had predicted that the latino vote to be strong and that and. >> i gets it's full steam ahead for the president's second term. he knows the work is not over on immigration. that is it going to be a big issue in 2013. climate chang came up today, which is very important to the economy and the economy itself. president obama needs to pain t -- maintain the support of the american people. at one point he was asked "you got a mandate"? >> with respect to the issue of mandate, i've got one mandate. i've got a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard t
he was also very calculating on his take on the scandal surrounding former cia chief david pezus. >> i am withholding judgment on how the process around general pettia came up. and it's also possible you'd be asking why are we interfering in a criminal investigation. i think it's best right now for to us see how this whole process unfolded. >> the president also showed the immigration he has and pressure on republicans to reach a bipartisan agreement. >> before the election hi...
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. >> i'm more troubled today knowing having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. clearly the impression that was given, the forgiven to the american people, was wrong. ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong.forgive american people, was wrong. ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong. >> ambassador rice wasn't able to persuade -- >> good morning, mika. go ahead. i know. i'm tired. >> i'm tired. way too early. >> she was able to persuade senator joe lieberman. >> oh, good. is he still in the senate? >> he's retiring. >> okay. >> and won't be able to vote in a potential rice confirmation hearing. >> she said what she believed was true. and she was under no political influence from the white house. >> i think it wouldn't be fair to disqualify her based on what she said on those sunday morning shows. >> in a statement following her meetings, ambassador rice acknowledged her initial in-saysment was incorrect saying while we certainly wish that we had had perfect information just days after the terrorist attack as is on which the case, the intellig
. >> i'm more troubled today knowing having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. clearly the impression that was given, the forgiven to the american people, was wrong. ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong.forgive american people, was wrong. ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong. >> ambassador rice wasn't able to persuade -- >> good morning, mika. go ahead. i know. i'm tired. >> i'm tired. way too early. >> she was...
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>> no. >> you said the cia said okay to the revised report? >> they okayed it to go. yeah, they said okay. >> no apology for ambassador susan rice after a full week of just trashing her? these republicans have a lot of explaining to do for their behavior this week, don't you think? ambassador rice has been exonerated, it took one day. although if you watch fox news, there's still a conspiracy afoot. >> nothing about the attack, nothing about al qaeda, nothing about that al qaeda was involved. to me, the question right now is who changed those talking points and why? >> that is the big question at this hour. who changed the talking points and why? >> republicans are doing whatever it takes to fake a scandal in the obama administration. paul waldman calls it scandal envy. nixon had watergate, clinton had lewinsky, barack obama, well, he's gotten off scot-free, and this is making the republicans absolutely livid, he writes. republicans are not going to get the watergate this time around. senator harry reid wrote a letter to john mccain and lindsey graham saying a select
>> no. >> you said the cia said okay to the revised report? >> they okayed it to go. yeah, they said okay. >> no apology for ambassador susan rice after a full week of just trashing her? these republicans have a lot of explaining to do for their behavior this week, don't you think? ambassador rice has been exonerated, it took one day. although if you watch fox news, there's still a conspiracy afoot. >> nothing about the attack, nothing about al qaeda, nothing about...
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. >>> opening up behind closed doors, a week after resigning as head of the cia over an extramarital affair david petraeus heads to both sides of capitol hill this morning for hearings on what happened in the leadup and aftermath of the september attack that killed four americans in libya. >>> meanwhile, at the other end of pennsylvania avenue, president obama gets ready to sit down with congressional leaders from both parties to try to figure out the fiscal cliff. is speaker boehner ready to make a deal anytime soon? >>> plus, major news for big business. the justice department hits bp with the biggest criminal penalty ever assessed on a corporation for the 2010 gulf oil spill. >>> and so much for the ideas that twinkies last forever. bankruptcy breaks a big-time baker. >>> good morning from washington. it's friday, november 16, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert in for chuck todd who hasn't worked hard enough at all this entire election campaign, he's now going to asia to cover the president's trip. former cia director david petraeus will testify in the benghazi at
. >>> opening up behind closed doors, a week after resigning as head of the cia over an extramarital affair david petraeus heads to both sides of capitol hill this morning for hearings on what happened in the leadup and aftermath of the september attack that killed four americans in libya. >>> meanwhile, at the other end of pennsylvania avenue, president obama gets ready to sit down with congressional leaders from both parties to try to figure out the fiscal cliff. is speaker...
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is your beef with the cia and not susan rice? >> if that's the information that she got, the question is, who did she get it from? was it changed from the time from are either mike morell got it or somebody else? we're going to get to the bottom of this. i think that's a clearly important topic for the intelligence committee to look at. my belief is, our chairman, dianne feinstein, is as eager to get to the bottom of this as any republican on that committee. and we will. >> senator blunt, i want to get your reaction to what mitt romney was overheard on a donor conference call saying yesterday as to why he lost. do you agree with his assessment that he lost because of gifts? >> because of what? >> gifts, if you will, to certain constituency groups. >> i didn't -- i didn't hear the comment. and don't know the context of it. i think we lost because the president turned out more voters in the battleground states than anybody thought he was possibly going to be able to turn out. and the mechanics of politics matter as wells as the mes
is your beef with the cia and not susan rice? >> if that's the information that she got, the question is, who did she get it from? was it changed from the time from are either mike morell got it or somebody else? we're going to get to the bottom of this. i think that's a clearly important topic for the intelligence committee to look at. my belief is, our chairman, dianne feinstein, is as eager to get to the bottom of this as any republican on that committee. and we will. >> senator...
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. >> i think he took the right step, and i think it's important when you're director of the cia with all the challenges that face you, and have -- that personal integrity comes first and foremost. >> panetta a former cia director and the washington shuffle with panetta and clinton saying they want out of the second term. will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to washington the new class of congress arriving just in time for a classic d.c. scandal. and a different fall from grace, jon stewart, crowns himself the worst journalist in the world. >> anyone out there who thought i may have actual journalists instincts i give you a snippet of my interview. >> he loves serving, to be in the arena. i thought i was going to test him, he tested me, crushed his pelvis. he wanted to help me with the project. he can turn water into bottled water. >> the whole time i was staring at how defined her arms were. [ inaudible ]. i am the worst jurmist in the world. for god's sake the title o
. >> i think he took the right step, and i think it's important when you're director of the cia with all the challenges that face you, and have -- that personal integrity comes first and foremost. >> panetta a former cia director and the washington shuffle with panetta and clinton saying they want out of the second term. will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to...
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ambassador chris stevens, two members of the cia. david petraeus appears at both hearings tomorrow morning. there were doubts his testimony would happen given his abrupt resignation, but petraeus reportedly volunteered to testify saying it's the right thing to do. the "wall street journal" has an interesting look into petraeus's final days in the agency including reports of interagency finger points and rising tensions. kelly o'donnell is on the hill, and kelly, two months since the attack and finally top intel players are on the hill. frustration seemed to really be boiling over. what's going on? >> that public hearing that you showed some clips from really showed how politically charged this is. that is not where the secret briefings are taking place. that's a separate thing. it was a show place for the partisan divide over benghazi. when you talk to those on the intelligence committees in the house and senate, there's a sober approach to this as far as getting to the fact finding. david petraeus will be here tomorrow. he did volun
ambassador chris stevens, two members of the cia. david petraeus appears at both hearings tomorrow morning. there were doubts his testimony would happen given his abrupt resignation, but petraeus reportedly volunteered to testify saying it's the right thing to do. the "wall street journal" has an interesting look into petraeus's final days in the agency including reports of interagency finger points and rising tensions. kelly o'donnell is on the hill, and kelly, two months since the...
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>> no. >> you said the cia said okay to the revised report? >> they okayed it to go. yeah, they said okay. >> no apology for ambassador susan rice after a full week of just trashing her? these republicans have a lot of explaining to do for their behavior this week, don't you think? ambassador rice has been exonerated, it took one day. although if you watch fox news, there's still a cop spear si afoot. >> nothing about the attack, nothing about al qaeda, nothing about that al qaeda was involved. to me, the question right now is who changed those talking points and why? >> that is the big question at this hour. who changed the talking points and why? >> republicans are doing whatever it takes to fake a scandal in the obama administration. paul waldman calls it scandal envy. nixon had watergate, clinton had lewinsky, barack obama, well, he's gotten off scot-free, and this is making the republicans absolutely livid, he writes. republicans are not going to get the watergate this time around. senator harry reid wrote a letter to john mccain and lindsey graham saying a selec
>> no. >> you said the cia said okay to the revised report? >> they okayed it to go. yeah, they said okay. >> no apology for ambassador susan rice after a full week of just trashing her? these republicans have a lot of explaining to do for their behavior this week, don't you think? ambassador rice has been exonerated, it took one day. although if you watch fox news, there's still a cop spear si afoot. >> nothing about the attack, nothing about al qaeda, nothing...
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the administration was given an assessment by the cia. susan rice went to the public and gave that to the public. when that information changed, the new information was given to the public. so i am not sure what they're looking for because i don't think there is anything beyond that. >> just to be clear, i'm not saying there's necessarily a conspiracy. what i'm saying is there was a lack of clarity. if the president was indeed clear that first day in saying that this was a terrorist act which by the way i don't think he was that clear, he was speaking generally, then why would susan rice a few days later not refer to it as a terrorist act? the fact of the matter is -- >> so the issue is the word terrorism wasn't used to the public satisfaction? >> one day it was vaguely described. the president saying that he referred to terror one day and then several days later the secretary or susan rice doesn't even refer to terrorism. she is talking about -- you can go right back to the video. the facts weren't clearly described from the beginning. >
the administration was given an assessment by the cia. susan rice went to the public and gave that to the public. when that information changed, the new information was given to the public. so i am not sure what they're looking for because i don't think there is anything beyond that. >> just to be clear, i'm not saying there's necessarily a conspiracy. what i'm saying is there was a lack of clarity. if the president was indeed clear that first day in saying that this was a terrorist act...
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this is a complex cia operation that was interrupted by a terrorist attack. the cia is never going to tell you everything that they are doing or did as they should not. but that allows a lot of innuendo room for the right to say, see, we're not getting answers, not getting transparency. you can't because it's an intelligence community. they can't tell you everything. stop making it a scandal when you begin with the idea it's a scandal and then we're going to fill in backwards the details. >> the crime of watergate was much bigger than a mere burglary as you know. it was about richard nixon's attempt to rig an election and subvert the democratic process itself. are these guys such fanatics that they've forgotten the basic facts of their own country's history? >> yes. >> thank you. >> to put it shortly, yes, they have. martin, i assume you do and toure, i live in the reality-based community. >> amen. >> and i really wish that senators graham and mccain and others would immigrate over here to our side because susan rice -- this whole focus is on u.n. ambassador
this is a complex cia operation that was interrupted by a terrorist attack. the cia is never going to tell you everything that they are doing or did as they should not. but that allows a lot of innuendo room for the right to say, see, we're not getting answers, not getting transparency. you can't because it's an intelligence community. they can't tell you everything. stop making it a scandal when you begin with the idea it's a scandal and then we're going to fill in backwards the details....
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i found him to be very credible and forthcoming and was doing a good job at cia. it's a big loss for the agency and country that he has left but given the circumstances, unfortunately, i don't see there was any other alternative. >> how concerned are you that the fbi didn't seem to tell anyone about this investigation in what many in congress have suggested was not a timely manner? >> right, i'm very concerned about that and i spoke about that yesterday. with some of the staff who were getting briefed up on what was going to be coming in terms of the hearings and i asked the question, you know, when do they have an obligation to report and, of course, the answer is in a timely manner and as i understand it, the fbi did not inform either the chairman or the ranking member of either the house or senate intelligence committee or the full committees in a timely manner so that's something where it has to be addressed not only in this situation but other areas that involve sensitive intelligence issues or investigations. they need to be compliant with the law. >> congre
i found him to be very credible and forthcoming and was doing a good job at cia. it's a big loss for the agency and country that he has left but given the circumstances, unfortunately, i don't see there was any other alternative. >> how concerned are you that the fbi didn't seem to tell anyone about this investigation in what many in congress have suggested was not a timely manner? >> right, i'm very concerned about that and i spoke about that yesterday. with some of the staff who...
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the problem here is the cia backs up everything that susan rice said. i think if you check the transcripts of what she said versus what the cia was saying at the time, those things match. and i think going forward, as we learn more information, as the information begins to spool itself out, as the investigation begins to conclude itself, and i think it will be some time when we get some real answers, i think that you're going to find that it absolutely was plausible that you had a terrorist organization who was taking advantage of a -- you know, of a protest in progress. i've always said that was very plausible. that seems to be, you know, the idea of what's happened here. today when i saw the president during this press conference, i thought he was going to start reciting the line from mop's ante up. he stood tough this afternoon and i think the white house press corps was not prepared for the president obama they saw today. >> nia-malika, some conservatives are calling out talk radio and fox news for lying to their audience. it seems like many republi
the problem here is the cia backs up everything that susan rice said. i think if you check the transcripts of what she said versus what the cia was saying at the time, those things match. and i think going forward, as we learn more information, as the information begins to spool itself out, as the investigation begins to conclude itself, and i think it will be some time when we get some real answers, i think that you're going to find that it absolutely was plausible that you had a terrorist...
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she was repeating what the cia had said was their best guess at that moment. it turns out to have been wrong. but to try to block her from being secretary of state simply for that was completely unsustainable and, you know, the meetings that are going to happen this week are the first step in her confirmation if the president does nominate her. i think that it would be very difficult for them to stop her. >> now, joe, they hammered ambassador rice. mccain hammered her but now he seems to be changing his tone. look at what he said then and look at what he is saying now. watch this. >> susan rice should have known better and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. >> we will do whatever's necessary to block the nomination that's within our power as far as susan rice is concerned. if this select committee if appointed clears her of any wrongdoing, besides not being very bright because it was obvious that this was not a, quote, flash mob -- i think we give all nominees the benefit of the hearing process, et cetera. maybe she could start out by publicly com
she was repeating what the cia had said was their best guess at that moment. it turns out to have been wrong. but to try to block her from being secretary of state simply for that was completely unsustainable and, you know, the meetings that are going to happen this week are the first step in her confirmation if the president does nominate her. i think that it would be very difficult for them to stop her. >> now, joe, they hammered ambassador rice. mccain hammered her but now he seems to...
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. >> former cia director david petraeus will testify before the senate intelligence committee. >> general petraeus had an affair with his biographer. people are snapping up copies of the book. >> it's so pathetic. >> the book is available in hard cover and extremely hard cover. >>> today on an i'm sorry i lost conference call with top campaign don't oorors, mitt rom said the president won the election because he game african-american and latino voters, quote, gifts. abc news has this audio. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote. >> romney also said that the president's campaign focused on giving targeted groups a big gift so he made a big effort on small things. those small things, by the way, add up to trillions of dollars. he said the president followed the old play book of wooing specific interest groups, especially the african-american community, the his it andic community and young people. mr. romney explained with tar
. >> former cia director david petraeus will testify before the senate intelligence committee. >> general petraeus had an affair with his biographer. people are snapping up copies of the book. >> it's so pathetic. >> the book is available in hard cover and extremely hard cover. >>> today on an i'm sorry i lost conference call with top campaign don't oorors, mitt rom said the president won the election because he game african-american and latino voters, quote,...
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be that at the state department, the cia. >> there are two issues here. one is the physical security of the consulate itself. based on all of the intelligence that we knew, all of that information, said clearly there was a high degree of threat. i believe that there was a catastrophic failure in recognizing that threat posture clearly on that date. that's a separate issue than the intelligence issue. we had clearly the intelligence was right. clearly, others had made decisions based on that threat, including other nations, had pulled out of benghazi. we knew all of that was going on through the investigation. but the state department for whatever reason didn't make the adjustments. i argue, and i think the senator would argue, would have been prudent to protect the lives. that's one issue. but the second issue is the narrative created following it did not match the intelligence. and did the policy decisions that happened afterward cause problems for the united states? i argue it has, and we have agreed together that we'll get to the bottom of how that hap
be that at the state department, the cia. >> there are two issues here. one is the physical security of the consulate itself. based on all of the intelligence that we knew, all of that information, said clearly there was a high degree of threat. i believe that there was a catastrophic failure in recognizing that threat posture clearly on that date. that's a separate issue than the intelligence issue. we had clearly the intelligence was right. clearly, others had made decisions based on...
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so all that susan rice has done is believe the cia. that's her own only sin in this entire thing. and so for mccain to say he's going to filibuster her for something that he and then senator obama defended condoleezza rice on, is really hypocritical and really annoying to the president. because she was doing exactly what mitt romney did. you'll notice in the third debate, mitt romney did not bring up benghazi. why? he was given an opportunity by bob schieffer. he didn't because he had just gotten a classified briefing from the cia that told him what everybody who has got an classified briefing knows. which is that it was cia's fault that they didn't get intelligence faster on what happened in benghazi. it was not at all susan rice's fault. >> well, the president said today that the congress had the same information that susan rice had. >> exactly. >> but john mccain was out there blabbing this morning, saying that they should have known better. as if she doesn't have good enough judgment to be in this position or to be even considered for it. i mean, how much of a slap in the face
so all that susan rice has done is believe the cia. that's her own only sin in this entire thing. and so for mccain to say he's going to filibuster her for something that he and then senator obama defended condoleezza rice on, is really hypocritical and really annoying to the president. because she was doing exactly what mitt romney did. you'll notice in the third debate, mitt romney did not bring up benghazi. why? he was given an opportunity by bob schieffer. he didn't because he had just...
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. >> a week after stepping down from the cia, general david petraeus testifies on capitol hill. tonight, colonel lawrence wilkerson separates fact from fiction and has strong words for john mccain. >>> president obama meets with house and senate leadership to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> i think we're all aware that we have some urgent business to do. i think all of us agree on this and this is action. >> we'll have congressman chris van hollen here to expose the problem. >>> governor scott walker joins rick perry in opposition to health care. john nick els joins us with the latest. >>> secessionists are coming out of the woodwork. wait until you hear their reasons. >> good to have you with us. thanks for watching president the right wing afelt to gin up a scandal is falling apart. republicans have declared the president is covering up information about benghazi. republicans gave us a pregame of accusations, involving ambassador susan rice. some house members say this is worse than watergate. >> this is not simply a coverup of a third-rate burglary. we have four of our diplomatic
. >> a week after stepping down from the cia, general david petraeus testifies on capitol hill. tonight, colonel lawrence wilkerson separates fact from fiction and has strong words for john mccain. >>> president obama meets with house and senate leadership to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> i think we're all aware that we have some urgent business to do. i think all of us agree on this and this is action. >> we'll have congressman chris van hollen here to expose the...
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he's been around the cia. he's now the acting director. all of a sudden, it's the u.n. ambassador's problem that she didn't put together the dossier that was going to be presented. this seems to really have united the democrats. if she is nominated to the secretary of state's position to follow hillary clinton s this a fight worth fighting? >> absolutely. if that's what the president wants, she's qualified. she's very intelligent. she's been a great u.n. ambassador. there's no reason not to fight for her. the theme of your show, democrats are showing some backbone. this is another thing. his plans cannot be hijacked by the man he defeated in 2008, john mccain. this is too important. >> to show you how desperate john mccain is, here he is comparing benghazi to the bin laden raid? >> we knew within hours all the details when we got bin laden in the raid there. every one of them. they are making a movie out of it. here we are ten weeks later and finally our ambassador of the united nations who appeared on every national sunday show has now said she gave false information c
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came from the intelligence community, from the cia. >> exactly. mark halperin, you've been watching this. susan rice with -- on "meet the press" and several of the other shows with david gregory on "meet the press" and when she was sticking to the narrative, in part, sticking to the narrative it had been a spontaneous protest that had evolved from the video, that had sparked it in benghazi that led to the tragic deaths of the ambassador and the three others, and that, of course, proved not to be accurate, a lot of tension with the cia over that and there is a suggestion that because there's a strong interest in susan rice being prepared, if the president chooses to nominate her to replace hillary clinton when she steps down, be that they need to clean that up in susan rice's benefit and that there could be some finger pointing at the cia, mark? >> for all the focus on the fiscal cliff and understandably so, the biggest issue by far the president and congress face in the next couple months the president will have to remake his foreign policy team.
came from the intelligence community, from the cia. >> exactly. mark halperin, you've been watching this. susan rice with -- on "meet the press" and several of the other shows with david gregory on "meet the press" and when she was sticking to the narrative, in part, sticking to the narrative it had been a spontaneous protest that had evolved from the video, that had sparked it in benghazi that led to the tragic deaths of the ambassador and the three others, and that,...
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that was before he was director of cia. come in as director, generally speaking you're still a politician. it's hard to bring them back. there is a political cost to it. in fact, there's been some other names that are out there that maybe more likely than what we've seen from the president at this point. >> let's talk act those other possible names, the replacements. we haven't heard a lot from house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers recently, the way he's gone after ambassador susan rice over the benghazi talking points, obviously. is he angling for this job, and is that a serious way to look like the best replacement? >> yeah, i think it is. i think that's the angle that will probably happen. the downside to this -- and if we're going to look at this politically speaking, the one thing i'm always concerned about is the democrats have regularly been almost -- have a sore spot about being seen as weak on national security issues. and the problem with consistently bringing in, quote, unquote, republicans on this is
that was before he was director of cia. come in as director, generally speaking you're still a politician. it's hard to bring them back. there is a political cost to it. in fact, there's been some other names that are out there that maybe more likely than what we've seen from the president at this point. >> let's talk act those other possible names, the replacements. we haven't heard a lot from house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers recently, the way he's gone after ambassador...
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why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community did put forward improved assessments over time that gave us the clear picture and debunked the idea that there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that, and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so long to get to the truth and get a more accurate picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that doesn't divulge classified information. but i don't think there's any evidence, i certainly haven't seen any evidence, that general petraeus or any of the other intelligence community were trying to mislead anyone. they are professional. they were trying to do their job, and we can fault them for getting the initial assessment wrong, but i don't think we can ascribe any kind of malice or intent to deceive. >> when your pants are on fire, someone should tell you your pants are on fire. you shouldn't have to ask are my pants on fire? he is only now getting us the straight skinny. that's my view.
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involving former cia director david petraeus who will testify tomorrow at a senate intelligence hearing on benghazi. >> can you assure the american people that there have been no breaches of national security or classified information in the scandal involving generals petraeus and allen? >> do you believe you should have known sooner or are you withholding judgment until the investigation is complete on that front? >> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham said today they want watergate-style hearings on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. >> i want to ask about the families of four killed. >> general petraeus is where we begin at the white house. i guess it's a good bet they would be coming up today. >> reporter: yeah. you saw the ap ask it. it didn't dominate as much as we thought. our friends at telemundo asked a question and coming back on immigration. he talked about the fiscal cliff. he laid down the law you saw him there. he wants the tax cuts extended for everybody under $250,000 and got to general petraeus and this whole intertwined story with benghazi, that's when
involving former cia director david petraeus who will testify tomorrow at a senate intelligence hearing on benghazi. >> can you assure the american people that there have been no breaches of national security or classified information in the scandal involving generals petraeus and allen? >> do you believe you should have known sooner or are you withholding judgment until the investigation is complete on that front? >> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham said today...